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Post by ludzik on Feb 20, 2017 21:45:16 GMT -8
Actually I'm thinking about breaking the contours between 2nd and 3rd floor. Floor 1 and 2 share the vertical column design on the structure... Another thought that I have is to shrink the base by 2 studs so that corners can be 2x2 rather then 3x3 and then the vertical tower can follow the same sized design and there can be more symmetry. Different option would be to shrink the tower now by two studs and make all corners 3x3 and only have one window opening symmetrically placed... choices choices....
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Post by AK_Brickster on Feb 20, 2017 21:47:31 GMT -8
Sorry, that's what I meant. Between the 2nd and 3rd floors.
If you look at the original source material, you'll see how effective that is at adding visual interest and breaking up the long planes/lines.
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Post by ludzik on Feb 22, 2017 10:10:25 GMT -8
ok, rummaged through what supplies I had, redid some other buildings to gain enough dark stone grey arches to complete the structure (yes AK yellow hand fleshie head fig is next). I also built one more level on top of the arches so that the grey window "panel" looks more complete. I'm trying to decide between that and a whole vertical on the second floor being dark stone grey Still can't decide though how to break appart the monotony of the 2nd and 3rd story...
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Post by ludzik on Feb 23, 2017 20:47:54 GMT -8
So I decided to take a break from the 2nd/3rd story issue and worked on the mountain beneath. I will update it to have more colors then just dark grey (I'll add earth/foliage/moss) but for now I worked on the general shape Frontal shot - there will be a walkway up to the front entrance so I left the center opened in order to work that in Can't have a good fortress without an escape route of sorts - I'll work in something there
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Post by AK_Brickster on Feb 24, 2017 8:58:48 GMT -8
I think it is looking good! (Still don't like the dark gray framing the upper windows - I'll be sure to make that comment every time, haha) I'd suggest widening the rock base here and there. The odds of finding a mountaintop with the exact dimensions of a square fortress is pretty much zero. It should be wider than the footprint of your tower in a couple of places, and maybe even narrower in a spot or two, such that you have to extend the wall lower than ground level in order to contour to the environment. This approach will also give you some spots to attach foliage, plant some moss, etc. Here's an example from one of my castles, showing how I tried to organically incorporate the mountain/rocks into the structure, to make it feel like it was "nestled in" to the rock. And here is a picture from my BrickCon '16 layout, showing some rock terracing:
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Post by ludzik on Feb 24, 2017 11:13:42 GMT -8
LOL yup you nailed it - You can never expect the mountain to fit just right To a degree I think I will come out off a side and maybe build an actual structure into the mountain where I run out of the mountain This will happen more or less though when I am placing it on the actual base.
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Post by AK_Brickster on Feb 24, 2017 12:29:25 GMT -8
I should also warn you that it can be tough to transfer enough force and in the right spots to get a structure to attach to a base after the fact, especially slopes, which have a tendency to fall off. You'll save yourself a lot of tears if you build from the ground up.
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Post by ludzik on Feb 24, 2017 13:29:26 GMT -8
yeah, I know... but I've done it before. My constraint is the impromptu builds with my three year old Scarily enough I'm thinking about putting my castle that sits on 6 full baseplates and 2 small plates onto MILS bases! Though I can do it 32 x 32 base at a time.
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Post by ludzik on Feb 25, 2017 16:54:26 GMT -8
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Post by AK_Brickster on Feb 25, 2017 17:20:04 GMT -8
I think that break looks good. Maybe go flat with the roof or switch to a 33 deg slope so the peak doesn't go all the way up to the top of your 3rd floor?
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Post by ludzik on Feb 25, 2017 21:27:56 GMT -8
I was thinking about the other slope but I don't have any corners in red
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Post by SEdmison on Mar 5, 2017 11:33:02 GMT -8
I think a change in profile width would benefit the design. A roof overhang and/or widening or narrowing the second floor by a stud or two, just to break up the stark profile you currently have going. And I still don't care for the dark gray around the windows, haha. I agree. You might consider having some defensive parapets at the top of the first level, with the second level inset enough for troops to walk around in defense. Alternatively, you could have the second level overhang enough that someone in the tower could look (and shoot) out over the scene below. And I, too, am not a huge fan of the dark gray on the windows.
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Post by Ragni Norgrimson on Jun 20, 2017 12:41:04 GMT -8
For the design of the roof as far as i know in reality it depends on where the castle was built. Is it a tower in the south where it is very warm? Or is it designed for the far north? In the far north especially withh all the snow go for steep roofs. Flat roofs would easily collapse under the weight of the snow.
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