ludzik
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Lenfald Freeman
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Post by ludzik on Mar 9, 2015 17:43:51 GMT -8
So I want to display one of my armies in a battle formation. I am trying to decide on the layout and I keep coming up short.
The 'mini' army comprises of the following mounted - 38 swordsman - 7 pikeman - 33 crossbones - 5 archers - 15 total 98 Now within this army there are 'vertical' units which are based on if a liege lord brought them or if they're a specific 'group' (ok... it's mainly based on the sigils they got on their shields and the minifig armor/type)
Sir Kejtar has his 'house' troops and they comprise of 24 mounted and 15 archers. then one of the lords under him supplied sir Kejtar with 6 mounted, 6 swordsman, 15 pikeman and 5 crossbowman. his keeps garrison which at times goes into the field with him comptises of 1 axman (captain of the guard) and 18 pikeman. Lastly There is 2 and 6 more mounted (total of 8) which are minor nobleman under their own sigils fighting for sir Kejtar.
So... I was thinking that the pikeman in line of two rows would form the center. two flanks of Mounted. part of the mounted could serve as reserve. How to dividedivide them up? There is no right or wrong answer - but curious what folks would do;)
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AK_Brickster
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Post by AK_Brickster on Mar 9, 2015 20:13:55 GMT -8
You should post a pic. Too hard to visualize like this.
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ludzik
Lenfald
Lenfald Freeman
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Post by ludzik on Mar 10, 2015 12:10:57 GMT -8
Yeah, I know.... best way to play musical chairs for now I figure is excel before I plan out the size of the base areas. While in reality formations are also dependent on the size of the opposing force (i.e. your line should not be narrower then their line or they would envelop the forces) there has to be a starting point of sorts So I have two different options that I can see that would make sense for the forces that do not include the garrison troops and then I added one where the garrison troops are deployed. I think that the pikeman (or in general foot soldiers) would be 2 or 3 deep with horseman 2 deep. In B I have 6 mounted set in reserve. The 4 in center is sir Kejtar directing the battle from a higher point. Theoretically I could put him also on the front lines.... anyways.... just something to occupy my mind when I don't have a chance to build
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Post by Daken the Bladesmith on Mar 16, 2015 18:11:06 GMT -8
Alrighty, a lttle terminology that I use: ranks are for the width and squads for the length eg 3 ranks with squads of 20 is 3 wide by 20 long. 4 ranks are standard for most size groups (platoons) but if you have a lot of men or it's not aesthetically pleasing you can make it wider. In my mind you want to keep the squads as short as possible in order for it to be relativity easy to hear commands and be able to respond quickly to an emergency. But you can't be to wide or it will be hard to maneuver varying terrain/skinny roads. With all that in mind, and without pictures of the varying figs. IRL I would have 4 ranks; starting with the Captain of the Guard alone on the most right rank (the Guide's position), followed by the pikemen, archers, crossbowmen, then swordsmen with the horsemen in the back. This is how they would march when traveling from point A to point B. If you can visualize them getting in battle positions from this formation: the Captain of the Guard is in front to provide direction and morale (we lead from the front). The pikeman spread out to form 2 rows (16 and 17) in a slight arch, the archers and crossbowmen become 2 rows of 10 with a small gap between them and the pikeman. And at a safe distance, the swordsmen stay with the noblemen to protect in case of an attack from the rear and now they have a head start if the army falls (noblemen are cowards ). From the rear (left, right or even both) I would position the calvary so they can swiftly ride onto the battlefield to break the enemy's formations or come to the aid of the soldiers. This will prevent needles loss of expensive troops, the calvary, and allow the archers to fire their arrows and bolts at the enemy without fear of hand-to-hand combat because the pikemen are in front. That's my two cents about it but I don't know how well this would work for you. I'm sure Google has some examples of ways armies were positioned back in medieval times. Have an amphibious day!
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