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Post by Andared on Mar 17, 2014 18:04:19 GMT -8
There are too many depths on the level of subforums... it's very very confusing to get to certain areas and navigation is a PITA Which forums specifically, and how would you suggest we improve them? I agree with this sentiment completely. One example would be the NoR forum, which is extremely sectioned. It may look a little more cluttered, but I find it far easier and less tiresome to just scroll through a long list of topics, instead of having to click link after link to get to the right subforum for the topic I'm looking for. I would combine the GC, Global Events, and Guild hall subforums with the faction subforum, for instance. It is not difficult for me to scroll through a list of topics with distinctive names, but it is tedious to have to click so many links just to get between topics. I would keep the Brawl within its own subforum, since it is much different from the rest of the LoR, but all the other things are connected with the LoR in general, and having it under one subforum would make searching for new activity and posts among the different groups infinitely easier. Also, could we transfer a few more topics from the LCC into this new forum? Some suggestions of mine would be: 1. All of the past GC threads (and their conclusions). My reason for this is that it is nice to be able to go back and look at past entries, see who won, and see how they were set up. It would also be very useful for newer members who are trying to grasp the concept and rules behind our Global Challenges. 2. Another little-known thread that I found to be extraordinarily helpful (not to mention extremely well written) was Koffiemoc's " About the nature and working of magic" which is excellent at explaining how magic in LoR works, and a very helpful reference for any stories or builds that one might attempt that involve some sort of magic. There are probably a few others, but these were the two that immediately came to mind. Also, would it be possible for us to dedicate a topic simply to the map of Roawia, with detailed information about all the major cities, landmarks, and important geographical locations? I believe that this would be extremely useful to newer members (and even older members), who do not already have a visual map of Roawia in their minds, or wish to crosscheck something for a story they are writing.
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andhe
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Post by andhe on Mar 18, 2014 1:59:04 GMT -8
Have there been any thoughts on 'footers' or signature blocks or whatever you call them? In all honesty, I'm not too keen on them, they make the page messy. Can we insist on a maximum size eg like AK's example above, I didn't even notice them initially. Really? I actually like signatures, as they help personalise each person and make them more recognisable. That's just my own opinion, however. Maybe it's just my 'designer eyes' but my eyes are drawn to pictures more than text, so find numerous signatures a bit of an eyesore (or maybe it's just the Loreos red is a bit bright). Like I said, AK's seemed reasonable and provide the same information that larger ones do, I'd just prefer them all to be standardise, and maybe a rule on what they can contain (ie only lego related images/content - nothing political/potentially offensive etc) and size (eg Ak's size). Writing this post has also bought up another question. Any chance of having a 'quote button' in the thread summary when creating a post? I think eurobricks and CC have that option and it's quite helpful.
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AK_Brickster
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Post by AK_Brickster on Mar 18, 2014 5:17:11 GMT -8
There is a quote button, isn't there? Didnt you use it when making the above comment? Or maybe you mean something different than what I'm thinking of.
(It isn't available in "quick reply", you have to use the full reply option to access all of the formatting stuff)
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andhe
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Post by andhe on Mar 18, 2014 6:08:33 GMT -8
^When you got into the 'reply' option, the previous comments are in a 'thread summary' below your reply box. However I can't see any button or any option that allows me to quote any of the previous replies from this point.
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Post by Erathor Pridenar on Mar 18, 2014 8:06:40 GMT -8
That's very true, andhe, but I don't know how to make them small!
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Post by Sir Valiant~ on Mar 18, 2014 11:07:20 GMT -8
I think the signatures are great and add a place to link to your Flickr/Brickshelf/MOCpages/ or other site. As for the size of pictures, they probably should be any bigger than the ones that the are used for the LCC. (Which reminds me if we change the names we will have to change the banners!!) Also perhaps there could be more of a distinction between each separate post besides a tiny thin brown line. It would help break up the continuous whiteness on the page a bit and help distinguish between one signature and the next persons post. Just thought I would mention it! Sir Valiant~
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ludzik
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Post by ludzik on Mar 19, 2014 6:16:52 GMT -8
There are too many depths on the level of subforums... it's very very confusing to get to certain areas and navigation is a PITA Which forums specifically, and how would you suggest we improve them? Legends takes us into Lands of Roawia.... for one I think that Lands of Roawia should be on the front page. I mean the move is advertised as making things easier and better for us, right? In Lands of Roawia you have three sub boards - signup, factions and global events. To a degree I like the idea of putting the signup and info as its own forum BUT having the factions nested within the factions subforum you've added another level of complexity.... on CC I could quickly figure out what's going on by visiting one forum. On that forum we had quite a bit going on... I will grant you that BUT it was a quick drive by to get a handle and scroll and see what interests or not. So with that in mind I suggest the following: 1. Request moving up the Lands of Roawia to the front page of the forum. I would prefer that the Lands of Roawia would be its own "section" and all the forums be in the front but I understand that we're a guest (I'm half tempted to offer up my hosting and make it ALL only about lands of Roawia ). Anyways, what I see is something like this Builders Square Forum Rules/TOS/FAQ In Progress Completed Builds Lands of Roawia Info and Signup Factions private Lenfald private Loreos private Garheim private Outlaws Submissions Main Hall General Discussion Market Square Miscellanous Reading Room Archlug Events MB Library In my mind this would allow for better interaction between players (within the lands of Roawia) as part of what (in my mind) made LCC great was the interaction between people of various factions. This means (to me) that if you make a subforum for Lenfald to post as well as other factions, you will end up with folks not cross pollinating or discussing builds and ideas or discussing things with each other. I agree on the idea of a private subforum for each faction BUT I think that there should be emphasis that those should be more along the lines of just announcements so that the factions don't pull within themselves and start acting in an isolationist fashion... I hope that this makes sense
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David
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Post by David on Mar 19, 2014 8:48:33 GMT -8
I don't view LCC/NoR as a guest, but rather a very important community here and the site a new home for that community. Jordan and the LCC/NoR moderators have complete control over the boards and we want to give them whatever they need to be successful. If NoR leadership wants the structure you proposed, I am all for it. My only concern is that it would drop the main hall out of visibility so NoR would have to come after that section. The result could be that instead of the NoR being represented in the top section, it would be dropped down. However, you would have direct access to the sub boards.
The main reason This site was started was to offer resources to active builders and give them more of a say in the direction of the site. Those resources: Contests, Feedback from experienced builders, Tutorials, and links to Sales are important to the direction of the site and I wouldn't want them buried.
Also did you know that you can Currently get to NoR directly from the front page? There is a direct link under the legends title. We can also change the Legends title to NoR, I just wanted to leave room for any other Roleplaying content that the community wanted.
In any case, whatever NoR leadership wants to do, I am down.
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Post by brucenh on Mar 19, 2014 10:01:44 GMT -8
Hey all,
Just an outside view on this, but I agree that over-dividing a forum buries and kills discussions (and leads to lots of meaningless discussions about 'this post shouldn't be in this sub-subforum. it should be over in that sub-subforum' See Lugnet for a long history of this sort of thing). I actually would go further than Ludzik's suggestion and just have one level of subforums:
Legends/LoR/roleplay -LoR info and signup -LoR faction - Lenfald -LoR faction - Loreos -LoR faction - Garheim -LoR faction - Outlaws -LoR global events -personal (i.e. non-LoR) stories
Then, if other roleplays appear in the future, let's say some people want to start an 'Ancient World' type roleplay, you could simply add other subforums, something like:
Legends/LoR/roleplay -LoR info and signup -LoR faction - Lenfald -LoR faction - Loreos -LoR faction - Garheim -LoR faction - Outlaws -LoR global events -personal (i.e. non-LoR) stories -AncientWorld info and signup -AncientWorld faction - Greeks -AncientWorld faction - Romans -AncientWorld faction - Persians -AncientWorld global events
Or whatever other roleplays that evolve (science fiction, Middle Earth, etc)
Also, I'm a little confused by the overall layout of the main forum. Just to my eye as someone who has visited many forums and admin'ed one for a decade, I would suggest grouping things into two or three main groups - it seems like 'in progress', 'completed builds', 'legends', 'library' and probably 'events' are all about building castle/fantasy stuff. 'general discussion' and 'misc builds' are more about LEGO that's not necessarily castle/fantasy. 'rules/ToS/FAQ' 'Market square' and 'ArchLUG' are more about the LEGO community.
Also, where does discussion of official sets, either set reviews or news about upcoming releases, go? I'm guessing 'general discussion', but it's not clear to me.
Bruce
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David
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Post by David on Mar 19, 2014 10:56:09 GMT -8
Bruce,
This is excellent feedback and we appreciate your input. I love your take on the NoR content and agree that we dont want to bury the subforums. The board will definitely evolve as time goes. Also The goal for us it to not replace CC, but be another resource. I personally love the Dear Lego and Lego set discussion boards on CC and will continue to go there for that content. General is a default for anything including those topics.
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Schmidt
Adventurer
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Post by Schmidt on Mar 20, 2014 18:08:41 GMT -8
Hey guys, I am having a problem making texts different sizes in posts. When I highlight the text (to change its size), and click the "font size" tab, it deselects the text and doesn't allow me to change their sizes.
Am I doing something wrong? Thanks.
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andhe
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Post by andhe on Mar 21, 2014 1:27:44 GMT -8
Hey guys, I am having a problem making texts different sizes in posts. When I highlight the text (to change its size), and click the "font size" tab, it deselects the text and doesn't allow me to change their sizes. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks. Why would you want to make it different sizes? On a side note, I'm finding the quote box really hard to see, and almost wrote my entire post inside it. Any way of making it a different colour/shade?
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Post by Erathor Pridenar on Mar 21, 2014 8:11:04 GMT -8
Actually, there's a point: is it possible to quote multiple posts? I can't find a way to do it.
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Schmidt
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Post by Schmidt on Mar 21, 2014 8:19:57 GMT -8
Hey Andy,
The need to make different font sizes is for headings and subheadings in the LCC roleplaying game. I am just not figuring out how to get it to work. I highlight the text, then go to select a font size. Every time I click the dropdown tab for the font size, it deselects the highlighted text.
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AK_Brickster
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Post by AK_Brickster on Mar 21, 2014 8:42:01 GMT -8
Schmidt, are you trying to do it from a mobile device?
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