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Post by dzidek1983 on Jan 19, 2016 23:51:24 GMT -8
Hello
This is my first post here iirc. I'll be soon joining the LOR section (need to take pics).
I have a question about water techniques. I need to buy the pieces for either the round 1x1 plate technique or the 1x2 trans tile one.
And i wonder which do you guys prefer? I watched the latest Lenfald LC and there was a lot of nice (actually spectacular) works with the 1x1 round plate. On the other side i just love the water MOC's by aardwolf_83 - like the attack on the iron furnace.
Can you give me any hint on what to choose?
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josdu
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Post by josdu on Jan 20, 2016 2:54:20 GMT -8
Good question! They are both good techniques IMO, I have tried both often. However I must say the stud technique is easier then the other to build and take apart (sorting is another thing if you use two colors though), also it's more adaptable to different shapes: also you can use them like this, but I think the tiles look sometimes and you can use the tiles for underwater scenes (stuff like this). Overall, I would go with studs for now, but sometime it would be nice to get some of the others as well IMO . Hope that helps and welcome! Will you join us outlaws ?
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Post by dzidek1983 on Jan 20, 2016 3:24:33 GMT -8
Sorry not Outlaws. Thank you for the answer though. I counted the costs for buying parts to build a 24x24 studs water at Bricklink in Polish stores. The 1x1 plate i took the www.flickr.com/photos/66475636@N02/24458574686/ numbers for the 250 in one basin. For the Tile part i counted the tiles, the trans clear bubbles and also various blue plates as base underneath the trans light blue ones. It came out i can build a larger pond and it's cheaper using the 2nd technique with the trans tiles. It is a bit more complicated. But i think it gives more options in building depths. One thing that i like with the 1x1 technique is you can easily build your figs in water, you just basically put them in the rubble. Same with ships. Well they are actually a totally different thing as i hate it when a ship just stands on the tiles, as they should be partially submerged and its hard to do it with tiles. Darn it! I will eventually need both techniques :/
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Post by AardWolf on Jan 20, 2016 7:12:03 GMT -8
Both techniques do have their applications. Another new one that I personally really like is the one that uses trans light blue jewel pieces instead of 1x1 round studs. The facets of the jewels and their lack of a concave back help them achieve a smoother, more "choppy-water" effect. Joshua (Sir Haymar) has used this technique in his last two LoR builds.
Personally I like the 1x2 tile technique best for overall versatility. It is actually pretty easy to incorporate ships that are partially submerged, and it can support ships that are listing and bobbing through waves. You just have to build a bit under the hull at varying heights. I also like using this technique for calm water (you can't have a good calm effect by dumping studs- they're bumpy by nature) and for large, flowy waves like those I made in my "A Discreet Return." (I would post links to the builds I am referencing, but I'm on my phone right now and can't do it). I also love the fact that tile water is actually "built" instead of dumped, but that also makes it much more of a pain to take apart.
In any case, parts availability plays a huge role, but in my opinion, here are the best options:
For choppy water and filling small, curvy spaces like troughs, aqueducts, etc, use the jewel method (stud method also works, but doesn't look as good).
For open oceans and anywhere you want big, rolling waves, for calm waters, and for flowing rivers and streams, the tile method is best.
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Post by dzidek1983 on Jan 21, 2016 0:24:52 GMT -8
I decided for the Tile technique. Time to empty my pockets again.
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